Will it be a Rareless N64 mini?

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Will it be a Rareless N64 mini?

Post by Mugsy » 25 Sep 2017, 22:31

Now that we're on the verge of getting the SNES mini, I was pondering what the game line up for a N64 mini would look like.

I'm still disappointed that we're not seeing any of the non-Nintendo IP Rare games on the SNES mini due to the big M not playing ball with the big N but considering all the iconic games Rare made for the N64, I really wonder if a mini console without the likes of Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, or Conker's Bad Fur Day could be considered a classic.

So I thought I'd try my hand at a list of N64 games that would make the cut:

Mario 64
Paper Mario
Donkey Kong 64
Kirby 64
Yoshi's Story
Castlevania 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Bomberman 64
Pilot Wings 64
Starfox 64
Wave Race 64
1080 Snowboarding
Mario Kart 64
Diddy Kong Racing
F-Zero X
Top Gear Rally
Cruis'n USA
Super Smash Brothers
Blast Corps
Mario Tennis
Mario Golf
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Snap
Harvest Moon 64


And if Nintendo can get around licensing agreements:

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer
Doom 64
Quake 64
Turok
Turok 2
Turok: Rage Wars
F1 World Grand Prix
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Mortal Kombat 4

Hopefully we will see one of the Rare shooters... even if it's Jet Force Gemini. I don't feel that Doom, Quake or Turok are shooters that define the N64 but Golden Eye, Perfect Dark and Jet Force Gemini did.

As for other genres, I don't think losing the Rare titles are an issue but Rare did make the iconic shooters for the system.
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Re: Will it be a Rareless N64 mini?

Post by stingtwo » 26 Sep 2017, 07:27

I couldn't in good honestly buy an N64 mini without either of the Bond titles(yeah The World is Not Enough is a great game) or perfect dark on it, not to mention about a half dozen good titles that your list is missing like the THQ WCW/NWO/WWF wrestling games that would simply NEVER make it onto the console because of licensing. The N64 was just awful with 3rd party support.

The stuff that rare made for Nintendo 64 that they got in the buyout ended up on the Rare Replay game.
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Re: Will it be a Rareless N64 mini?

Post by storm84 » 26 Sep 2017, 07:31

In a way, Goldeneye defined the N64, so it would be really poor form if it wasn't on there.

One I'd like to see on there is Mortal Kombat: Sub Zero. It wasn't the perfect game, but it was hard and sorta worked.
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Post by Mugsy » 26 Sep 2017, 08:13

Yeah, that Rare Replay package has pretty much divided the Rare line up. Though, Golden Eye didn't make the cut on Rare Replay either. Here's hoping that MGM has the final say and it gets on the N64 mini.

And here's hoping that Nintendo put 4 controllers in the package too.

Need to find me a USB/PS3 to SNES mini port converter now so I can use my PS3 arcade stick to play SF2 Turbo.
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Post by stingtwo » 26 Sep 2017, 15:03

It's not a just limitation to the movie rights, it's the actors also giving permission to have their likeness in the game which is the biggest issue (Pierce Brosnan was a legit pain for EA when they made the Bond games, it's why his likeness isn't in half of their games). On technicality, it's a whole new game so new deals have to made.

Goldeneye ain't ever coming back, not even Nintendo was allowed to sell the game in stores after 1999 and they were the licencee to it, remember when Activision had to recall their Bond games, same reasons.
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Post by Mugsy » 09 Nov 2017, 13:58

A few peeps on the net going ga ga over this list of N64 game manuals and saying it's the list of N64 mini games:

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nint ... 90819.html



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Post by storm84 » 09 Nov 2017, 14:38

Lack of Rarewares is sucky. There's not a lot on that list I don't already have on my N64 presently. Suppose the convenience is the compatibility with the TV and new controllers that haven't been wrecked from overuse.
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Post by Mugsy » 09 Nov 2017, 14:57

It's more than likely that it'll be hacked within a week like the SNES mini so we'd be able to put the Rare titles on ourselves (for those inclined to). I'm personally more concerned about how much storage space it'll have. The NES and SNES mini both used 512Mb flash memory of which there was about 300Mb free on the SNES mini for us to "utilise" for other games. I put inverted commas as that same space was used for save states so one has to determine the 'sweet spot' for themselves as to how much space to leave free for the number of save states they planned to make. But with N64 games being larger in size, if they keep it to just this game list (which is under 20), we might only just have enough room for the original games and saves and not be able to load on much more unless one forgoes saves for most games.
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Post by storm84 » 09 Nov 2017, 15:11

I rally should get around to doing that with my SNES in the mean time.
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Post by Mugsy » 09 Nov 2017, 16:47

Yeah, the current build of the software seems pretty stable. Been about 2 weeks or more since the last release which fixed a minor infinite loop bug and nothing major seems to have popped up.
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Post by storm84 » 09 Nov 2017, 17:42

I imagine I'll have some time in December to finally do it.
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Post by Mugsy » 12 Nov 2017, 14:17

This guy's testing the N64 emulator in the SNES mini with retroarch with a dozen plus games. Seems pretty decent but the space taken up is pretty huge. I dare say that for a N64 mini, we'll see the flash memory upgraded from the NES/SNES mini hardware if the games are taking as much space as he's showing.

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Re: Will it be a Rareless N64 mini?

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EDIT: if you don't have time for a video:

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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/n64/comments/9 ... o_64_mini/
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