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Post by Mugsy » 21 Jul 2016, 22:00

With a week or so out from the end of the cut off date, I decided to do a compatibility review of my machines which is what I should have done in the first place. The HP I know has driver issues. Likewise, my Lenovo 13" laptop isn't on their list of Win10 supported machines so I won't waste my time and potentially borking the laptop up since it's my travel laptop.

My desktop has got a few things that isn't Win10 compatible (scanner software and potentially print drivers). I really can't see any reason to buy a new scanner/printer that's Win10 compatible just to upgrade to Win10... so I'll be sticking with Win7 on all these devices.

Just as well, I play Diablo 3 mostly regardless of how many games I buy so there's no advantage and only disadvantages to getting Win10 on my desktop and 2x laptops.

My tablet/netbook though... upgraded to Win10 because I hated Win8.1 and it's never been better. Wish work would upgrade my Surface Pro to Win10 so I get multiple desktops... PIA to have to shut down all the things I have open when I take the tablet into meetings... and I can have a dozen plus spreadsheets and word docs plus other apps when doing my analysis.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by Yurtles » 24 Jul 2016, 21:14

I upgraded a few days ago. I haven't been impressed. I've got significantly longer boot times - It was so short with windows 7 I wouldn't think twice about restarting, not so now - it's at least double the time. Also my music/videos will stop playing whenever I'm transferring files off that HDD with no increased transfer speed for compensation. So every time I back-up files that's essentially all my computer seems to be able to handle now.

I don't think I have any big pros from the upgrade. I'm still learning what's changed so maybe I'll find some things I like yet. I think most of my issues stem from the fact that I had absolutely no need to upgrade from 7 and the only reason I did was because of the deadline.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by n1cholas » 25 Jul 2016, 11:06

Yurtles wrote:I upgraded a few days ago.
I'm not surprised you ran into issues, I've formatted and clean installed Windows 10 for a few people who were having storage and file permission issues after upgrading to Windows 10.
Yurtles wrote:I've got significantly longer boot times - It was so short with windows 7 I wouldn't think twice about restarting, not so now - it's at least double the time. Also my music/videos will stop playing whenever I'm transferring files off that HDD with no increased transfer speed for compensation. So every time I back-up files that's essentially all my computer seems to be able to handle now.
File system issues are one of the biggest issues I've seen, backing up all data then formatting all internal storage and clean installing Windows 10 increased performance to Windows 7 levels or better even on very old Intel dualcore systems.
Yurtles wrote:I think most of my issues stem from the fact that I had absolutely no need to upgrade from 7 and the only reason I did was because of the deadline.
It didn't really matter when you upgraded as file system and permission issues have existed since Windows 10 was released.

http://www.howtogeek.com/186775/how-to- ... a-legally/

It was possible to install Windows 10 using a key from an eligible earlier version of Windows but I am not sure that is still the case.
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Post by Yurtles » 25 Jul 2016, 14:03

It's a clean install on a formatted drive. I probably shouldn't have used the word upgrade. Shit's just fucked.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by bender » 25 Jul 2016, 14:37

A few months ago, I grabbed a spare HDD and installed W10 on it using my W7 key. I also tested all my drivers and various aspects of W10 to see how stable it was. Seems pretty good. I installed steam and played a few games and didn't notice any differences in performance etc.

After i had done all this, I just plugged my W7 SSD back in and continued using the old OS. However, now at a later date, when i decide to switch to W10, i can for free at any time, knowing it will all work. I've been thinking about seeing how the anniversary update goes and if i like what i see (particularly the linux developer stuff), i'll backup my W7 OS, wipe the SSD and install W10 on it.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by Fireslide » 25 Jul 2016, 17:16

It's been fine for me.

The only issue I've had is at some point the store got corrupted and I couldn't fix it, so I had to reinstall completely from scratch, none of the recovery things worked. Otherwise it's been perfect.
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Post by storm84 » 25 Jul 2016, 19:23

The whole "free" thing is a good incentive, but I like Windows 7 and had mixed success with my netbook, notebook, and wife's PC in migrating to 10.

In some ways, I was hoping M$ would pull an Apple and just force the upgrade upon me. That way I could just bitch about it and move on.
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Post by Disruptor4 » 26 Jul 2016, 12:22

Had no issues upgrading the 100's of PC's I've touched. Performance improved on all of them too. Some were clean installs, others were upgrades.
My primary at home was a fresh install using my W7 key.
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Post by Mini » 26 Jul 2016, 12:25

Only issue I have is that my graphics drivers randomly crash... But I'm not sure if that is the OS, GPU itself, or the drivers failed to install properly.
Very intermittent though, and haven't been able to pin point a cause yet :(

Other than that, my boot time is less than a minute easily. From power button being pushed to windows being usable.
Mine was a fresh install on a brand new SSD though, so boot time was always going to get better for me.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by storm84 » 30 Jul 2016, 12:33

Turns out a looming dedadline is a great motivator (7h27m left at the time of this post), so as soon as I'm finished backing up Doom I'll upgrade. Gonna try a fresh install and see if that makes it painless.
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Post by kharis » 30 Jul 2016, 12:37

I tried to do the old laptop this morning and it said it had expired
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Post by storm84 » 30 Jul 2016, 12:38

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/windows ... 10-upgrade

What if you run the exe downloadable from there?
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Post by kharis » 30 Jul 2016, 12:41

Will check it out in a few
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by kharis » 30 Jul 2016, 12:47

Seems to be working. Stupid task bar icon
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Post by storm84 » 30 Jul 2016, 14:07

Installation happening now. Thankfully I did a backup and reinstall of 7 last week, so starting again from scratch isn't a big deal.

Let's see if the lack of Windows 10 drivers for my motherboard will bite me...
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Post by Mugsy » 30 Jul 2016, 14:48

Hope you all have better luck with your Win10 installations than I did. I personally can't wait for the next 6 or so hours to be over... hopefully my desktop will stop telling me to upgrade to Win10 at some point. It's a great OS for my tablet/netbook... just not ideal for my laptops or desktop.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

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Why is that storm?
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by storm84 » 01 Aug 2016, 17:52

User account bullshit. Put a typo in my email, and trying to navigate the system to try to get it fixed was counterintuitive and unnecessary convoluted. Creating a local account was only achievable after creating a new email with an outlook address.

There are other issues, but that happened right away and raised my ire enough to search out an appropriate Internet meme for the occasion.
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Re: Windows 10 for gaming...

Post by bender » 02 Aug 2016, 13:49

storm84 wrote:User account bullshit. Put a typo in my email, and trying to navigate the system to try to get it fixed was counterintuitive and unnecessary convoluted. Creating a local account was only achievable after creating a new email with an outlook address.

There are other issues, but that happened right away and raised my ire enough to search out an appropriate Internet meme for the occasion.
You don't actually need to use an online account when installing. When it asks for your account info, just click skip and it will take you to the local account setup. You can then later add your email if you want to link your microsoft live account.
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Post by Yurtles » 04 Aug 2016, 17:20

I think I've worked out what my issue is with Win 10. I've got all my general programs and OS installed on a SSD with a secondary HDD for games I don't play much and file/media storage.

It seems like windows is sending my HDD to sleep randomly, regardless of if I'm using it or not and completely ignoring my power settings. I can play the same videos/music off my SSD without any issue but off the HDD 3 or 4 times an hour it'll hang exactly like it can't access the file and needs to buffer it up before it'll go again. Same goes for just browsing the HDD when these pauses happen. It's exactly the sort of behaviour you'd expect to see in an external drive that needs to spin up.

Google is giving me nothing to solve it, all I can find is threads telling people to change their power management settings so the HDD never sleeps but I changed that setting before I even knew there was a problem.

I can't fix it, might just go back to Windows 7. I can come back to 10 whenever now that I've done it once can't I?
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Post by Otto-matic Reiffel » 04 Aug 2016, 17:25

I have a similar thing, but also had it happening in 7.

I suspect it might be power saving features of "green" drives.
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Post by Yurtles » 04 Aug 2016, 17:34

Mine's a black though and had no issues on 7. Frustrating.
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Post by Matty » 04 Aug 2016, 17:50

Just to add to the confusion, I've not had this happen on my green drive.
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Post by Spooler » 04 Aug 2016, 17:57

I have 2 systems running win 10, have had no such issues ... that said I don't game as much on PC as i used to.
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