Sathias wrote:Nah if Mal goes down, Julie will too IMO. There are elements in the party that are putting a bit of the blame of this result on her. Bolt singled her out yesterday, and so did Briggs for him losing his seat (over the way she handled his indiscretion in Hong Kong I believe)
Removing Bishop from cabinet could end up being a very bad move as she is one of their best campaigners and there may be another election. She is a power player out west and the election didn't go badly out west so it would be foolish to move against her and upset her faction.
Sathias wrote:I think her being the perpetual deputy (deputy under 5 separate leaders from memory) has also started to work against her in giving an impression that she is disloyal. The Abbott camp especially see her that way after what happened with him being deposed last year.
Even the general public could see Abbott was in trouble and the six month deadline he gave himself was a grave mistake.
I think the conservatives are the ones who have to do the most soul searching to do, with Abbott as PM the election would have been an outright loss. The right has to acknowledge that shackling Turnbull to their agenda destroyed any chance of the LNP easily winning another term.
I wouldn't blame Turnbull for resigning as he was always set up to fail by the right and his poor judgement about the MTM, proposed company tax cuts and the double dissolution election were extraordinary blunders.
Turnbull was and continues to be a poor politician with questionable judgement and now that his personal popularity is trashed he may be done sooner rather than later.