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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Mini » 22 Aug 2017, 09:53

After talking to a few people around my town I went with Internode (Looked at TPG and iiNet, but neither has a 50/20 plan)
Booked in to be connected on the 28th of August... which happens to be the day I fly to the Gold Coast for work and will be up there until Thursday...
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Mythor » 24 Aug 2017, 21:50

Thanks to some unexpected lag issues in Fortnite tonight I ran a speed test.
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Used to be 3-4ms ping and 90+ down 35+ up any time of day. Consider my Skymesh recommendation officially revoked. Guess I'll be looking for a new provider tomorrow!
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by n1cholas » 24 Aug 2017, 22:24

Mythor wrote:
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I'll be looking for a new provider tomorrow!
I suggest you steer clear of iiNet, I am getting 80ms+ to the first hop so a Sydney server is 140ms+.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by bender » 24 Aug 2017, 22:32

The problem I see with smaller providers that report good speeds and ping is that they may be initially good, but once the word gets around, they get a bunch of people churning to them and they cant expand infrastructure fast enough to cover the increased loads. They end up just as bad or worse than the rest. Its probably going to be a continual jumping around game for a while until the CVC prices are changed and/or the big ISPs stop trying to be stingy with bandwidth.

Apparently the NBN (FTTN) will be coming to my area in about a month (I'm in melb). I'm about 200m line of sight from the node, and I'm estimating 300m line length (following streets). I should be able to get near max speeds at that distance (Hopefully). Figured I'll just stick with internode as they are pretty reliable. I currently have issues with latency and speeds during peak hours, but I'm just assuming that's due to my exchange being congested.
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After talking to a few people around my town I went with Internode (Looked at TPG and iiNet, but neither has a 50/20 plan)
Booked in to be connected on the 28th of August... which happens to be the day I fly to the Gold Coast for work and will be up there until Thursday...
Yeah, thats what I liked about internode when I was comparing providers, their plans a more granular. Let us know how things with internode go Mini.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Mythor » 24 Aug 2017, 22:38

n1cholas wrote:
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Mythor wrote:
24 Aug 2017, 21:50
I'll be looking for a new provider tomorrow!
I suggest you steer clear of iiNet, I am getting 80ms+ to the first hop so a Sydney server is 140ms+.
Someone would have to be literally paying me to go back to TPG. :)
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by boars » 24 Aug 2017, 22:51

Heard Aussiebroadband isn't terrible... not sure if true though.

Cruising along waiting for my installation still.
Lodged a complaint with Telstra nearly 2 weeks ago, heard nothing. Lodged a TIO complaint a week later.
Not looking promising either way... what a hopeless situation.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by linxus » 25 Aug 2017, 09:02

boars wrote:
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Heard Aussiebroadband isn't terrible... not sure if true though.
Can confirm - been connected for a little over a month and no lag/evening slow down issues. One national outage a few days ago, but bosses had it resolved relatively quickly. From this and their presence on Whirlpool, they come across to me as what Internode used to be.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Mythor » 25 Aug 2017, 14:53

Have been looking at Aussie Broadband too. Prices and bandwidth limits seem reasonable. No unmetered Netflix is a little sad. They do offer "unlimited" night owl downloads between 1am and 7am for $10 extra per month, unmetered uploads for $10/m and extra data blocks if you need them.

Just a matter of whether they're congested too, I guess. :(
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by PALADiN » 25 Aug 2017, 15:39


Mythor wrote:Have been looking at Aussie Broadband too. Prices and bandwidth limits seem reasonable. No unmetered Netflix is a little sad. They do offer "unlimited" night owl downloads between 1am and 7am for $10 extra per month, unmetered uploads for $10/m and extra data blocks if you need them.

Just a matter of whether they're congested too, I guess. :(
As bender said, they may initially be good but, in the end, they'll become congested like everyone else as more people find out about them.

There'll never be a good long term provider at the moment which is why I recommend not being locked into a contract.

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Post by Mythor » 25 Aug 2017, 16:08

Aussie Broadband is a month-to-month contract, not a long term one. If they become "congested"/under-provisioned I'll move on again. The NBN "churn" is so easy there's little reason to stick with a provider if they tank. At some point one or more providers will emerge as good long term prospects and if that's not Aussie Broadband, so be it.

And if Aussie Broadband proves no better than Skymesh I can just as easily go back!
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Nekosan » 26 Aug 2017, 18:38

jambo wrote:
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Parents got their NBN hooked up yesterday, running over the coaxial thanks to me having Foxtel years ago =P

Not working yet, apparently the NBN guy just said it wasn't connected yet and they have to just leave it on and wait.
Get em to call, my area was the second in Cairns switched on and it didn't happen until i called them and asked and the girl was like "oh, that's showing as work complete, i should probably switch the whole thing on huh?". It was pretty fuckin great, called them, immediately called node afterwards and told them nbnco had just switched everything on so ignore your little tool thingy and for a good 2-3 hours i was the only on in the entire area using the NBN :lol: .

edit: fucking notification tool, i didnt realize that post i quoted was old.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Mugsy » 27 Aug 2017, 00:10

Housesitting at my bro's place for the past few days... he has unlimited FTTP 12/1 connection. Diablo 3 feels pretty responsive.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Artful-dodgeR » 27 Aug 2017, 21:43

+1 for Aussie Broadband, been with them for 3-4 months, outages always told in advance and no slowness issues.
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Post by Mini » 31 Aug 2017, 22:45

Well got my NBN connected tonight with Internode, I am on the 50/20 plan and getting decent speeds.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by bender » 01 Sep 2017, 00:22

NIce, do you know approximately how far you are from your node?
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Post by Mini » 01 Sep 2017, 10:12

Straight line it is only about 250 to 260 metres, but I don't have any idea where my actual line goes of course.
Will check again tonight during peak time though to see what impact that has.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by n1cholas » 01 Sep 2017, 11:46

Mini wrote:
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Well got my NBN connected tonight with Internode, I am on the 50/20 plan and getting decent speeds.
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Congrats.

I guess we should be glad to be getting decent speeds at all.

I know quite a few people in my area that are getting under 25mbps down and 10mbps up, techs have told them that during the co-existence period anything more than 12/1mbps is acceptable and NBN won't pay for additional work to check pits, joins and other remediation unless the VDSL2 service suffers from more than 5 dropouts a day.

Since FTTN is using Seamless Rate Adaptation (SRA) which can reduce sync rates to prevent dropouts over time some of these users are barely getting 12/5mbps after a few hours/days of sync uptime.

On all the FTTN connections I've monitored I've noticed a common trend of downstream sync rate and throughput reduction over time and forcing the modem to retain line sync does not necessarily increase downstream sync rates and throughput back to where it originally was.

Maybe a port reset will get speeds closer to where they were initially but in international rollouts as more people were placed on the node sync rates and throughput tend to decrease due to increased crosstalk and interference, vectoring does not magically remove either as NBN would have you believe.

SRA is also far from seamless, others and myself have observed that when SRA is utilised realtime activities like VoIP and gaming often dropout.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by bender » 01 Sep 2017, 14:03

Mini wrote:
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Straight line it is only about 250 to 260 metres, but I don't have any idea where my actual line goes of course.
Will check again tonight during peak time though to see what impact that has.
Thats interesting, you should theoretically be able to get 100mbps at that distance. Were you able to get the 100mbps option? Does anyone know if some nodes are restricted to 50mbps?
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Post by Mini » 01 Sep 2017, 14:10

I had the option of the 2 speed tiers... but as I live on my own and will never have anyone battling me for bandwidth I chose not to pay the extra for it.
I actually looked around for a retailer that still offered the 50/20 plan
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by bender » 02 Sep 2017, 16:35

Ah, OK. I was wondering why you would only be getting 46mbps/16mbps. I just realised speedtest doesn't include packet overhead in its measurements.
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Post by Ralph Wiggum » 04 Sep 2017, 00:44

Just preordered with Aussie Broadband so they'll hook me up once my NBN is switched on in November. Fingers crossed!
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Post by Sathias » 04 Sep 2017, 18:08

My FTTN got turned on today, getting a pretty solid 50/14 atm... not too shabby compared to what I feared I might get with my shitty copper.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by ButterflyEffect » 04 Sep 2017, 18:33

With a bit of luck my hfc connection should be completed on Wednesday.
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by Treloar » 18 Sep 2017, 08:21

Starting to think Internode is on it's way out... all my pings the last month have been up 50ms to game servers with fluctuating pings.

As Internode was bought out by iinet, who was taken over by TPG supposedly.... I think I am going to get the short end of the stick sooner or later :(

I am on ADSL2+, I can't wait til NBN gets here... the node is 100m - 200m away depending on how the cables run to my house, certainly better than the 4km I am from the exchange.

Just to be clear the bollard that sticks up out of the ground is the NODE :?: is it not :?:
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Re: The NBN thread

Post by n1cholas » 18 Sep 2017, 11:18

My iiNet connection hasn't been as bad lately during peak hours.

Latency to Sydney servers hasn't been more than 105ms, during periods of no congestion latency is 54ms.
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